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John from FL's avatar

"Democrats should aim to be in a position to win Senate majorities without desperate gambits, to meaningfully contest state offices in all fifty states, and to make blue areas thriving magnets for people and capital requires a bigger program of party renewal."

Straight into my veins, Matt.

Democrats sometimes forget that "You play to win the game", as Herm Edwards said. The game is to win Senate and House seats (for Congress) and to win the Electoral College (for the Presidency). That's it. Pick positions that will win the game.

That means matching the cultural and policy priorities of lots of people in states that disagree with the cultural and policy positions of people in NYC, LA, SF, DC and BOS. Less focus on climate change, gun control and racial essentialism and more focus on government efficiency, equality of opportunity and immigration enforcement. Less hectoring, more encouraging.

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Rick Gore's avatar

I think a big problem with shifting left economically is that it doesn’t address what working class people actually want, and I think we can all agree that we need to win more of their votes.

You can ask working class people in NYC what their concerns are and they’ll tell you. Number one for them (like it is for everyone who lives here) is housing costs. Neoliberalism and big bad billionaires didn’t cause that - restrictive zoning did. You’re not going to fix that problem by attacking neoliberalism (whatever that means) or taxing billionaires more.

Another issue that working class people will cite is violent crime - again - this isn’t about billionaires - they aren’t going up to the Bronx and raping and murdering (billionaires do rape occasionally but prefer to do so on their yachts to vulnerable employees). Yet another issue is being able to ride the subway without having to worry about a crazy person pushing you on the tracks or being erratic in the train - these are not “neoliberal” issues - and they won’t be solved by taxing billionaires more or even executing them. The list goes on and on - they want good schools for their kids - and despite having some of the highest per-pupil spending in the country, NYC schools are not performing very well. Are you really going to tell me that taxing billionaires more and further increasing that spending another 10-20% will turn that around?

Again, I’m not opposed to trying to re-balance the economy to being less friendly to capital (we should definitely remove the carried-interest deduction) and more friendly to workers - but if you want the votes of the working class then I think you need to actually listen to them and respond to what they want.

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