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Florian Reiter's avatar

One thing I learned from talking to climate activists is that there is not really a trust in market forces. The rapidly accelerating solar buildout gets much more credited to organizing and political lobbying than to the simple fact that in most cases, solar has just become cheaper and better than the alternatives. If you live in that world, where every climate win must first be hard-fought against the forces of evil (Senate, ExxonMobil), then this bill is of course extremely scary to you.

The other thing is that climate activists tend to look at energy policy from a whole different angle. We pretty much know how much carbon we still have left to spew into the atmosphere before we break the 1.5 degree Paris target. Every new fossil fuel project that gets permitted or gets political help with stuff like the permitting deal brings us one step closer to breaking that 1.5 goal.

In a way, that view is of course totally correct. But if our only option to reach 1.5 is to totally block permitting of every new energy project, renewables included - then we've actually lost that fight a long time ago, in truth.

Jack Henneman's avatar

I have the sense that a lot of environmental activists are motivated in part by an aesthetic objection to mass consumer society. That is, if we suddenly had unlimited zero carbon power that worked on jets and big SUVs, they would not love the result because they just don't like the idea of people jetting off to the Riviera or whatever at the dropping of a hat, or big ole Cajuns driving around in huge trucks.

How much of the opposition to cheap natural gas (which is definitely better than coal and oil) stems from a sort of hair shirt attitude that ultimate believes we should all live simpler lives because of some obscure moral imperative to live smaller, rather than because of the actual environmental implications?

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