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G Elliott Morris tried dunking on Matt for an April 2025 tweet where Matt cautioned against raising the salience of immigration in the context of the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case. I wonder why people have such a hard time understanding tactical vs strategic advice. In April 2025 Trump was still trusted on immigration and Garcia, just beneath the surface, had some legitimately unsavory aspects to his case. A focus on due process was appropriate, but not a focus on immigration.

Then DHS goons started shooting white Minnesotans and now it's immigration enforcement that's incinerating public trust of Trump on immigration.

This is not a hard needle to thread at a high level (sane enforcement, secure borders) but I do worry that progressives are going to take this shift in sentiment to start messaging things like "no one is illegal on stolen lands" because they think lenient enforcement is popular now. What's a pithier/better reflection of the politics than ABOLISH ICE?

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We see that the protests are working to a certain extent: a majority of Americans are disturbed by what's going on in Minneapolis and Trump is losing support. But it's clear that this is far from a deadly blow to Republicans' prospects.

I say this as someone who's horrified by what's going on in Minneapolis. Once this episode passes, with three years to go until the next presidential election, it might be better for people left of center to focus on the question "Why are we so weak? Why can't we decisively defeat them?" rather than questions of small-ball electoral tactics that might help in the short term (pivot to healthcare? a new immigration policy proposal?).

The issue, I think, is about values more than specific policy. Strikingly, there's one thing left and right seem to agree on: enforcement of immigration law is going to require morally reprehensible actions. The right is basically ok with this, whereas the left isn't. Most people therefore correctly understand that right now there are just two options: mass violations of civil rights or open borders, even if politicians don't explicitly say this. (Biden didn't "run on" open borders, but the borders were open!) Liberals correctly point out that there *exist* policies that would be more humane, but voters probably suspect this is just a cudgel -- when a moderate liberal gets into power, will they actually implement these?

I think that to break this dynamic and decisively win, liberals are going to have to take a look at themselves and ask how they've gotten here. My take is that liberals don't have a good answer to the question "Who are we?" Egalitarianism has such a strong hold over the left that immigrants are held in higher moral esteem than most of our countrymen.

Liberals can talk all they want about wonky policy ideas to enforce immigration law, but people understand this dynamic. Until values change, commitments to future enforcement will ring hollow. Now would be a good time for people left of center to sit down, talk with one another, and do some introspection about why their values don't resonate with most Americans. We could chalk it up to Americans being a bunch of Nazis, but actually, most Americans are responding admirably to what's happening. I think there's still some hope, but winning will require more than poring over the latest poll numbers.

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