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Rustbelt Andy's avatar

I was so frustrated by this article – as in “of course why do we even need to discuss this” – and then the last paragraph was exactly what I’ve been thinking for years. I live in Cleveland. There are literally miles of empty land between my house and downtown. Crying out for development. The land is almost if not literally free. There are tax incentives. There’s rail transit. Commute to two largest job clusters in the state is less than 20 minutes. Freshwater, arts, restaurants. Yes the weather is not San Diego, but it’s better than Washington DC or New York City.

Now Matt might say markets clear, nobody wants to live in Cleveland. But my response would be markets clear, at what price? If the housing was literally free with no one move to Cleveland? But people suffer through agonizing commutes in East Bay and in Austin? For what? We have tons of thousands of unfilled jobs, pretty amazing wages, especially considering the cost of living. As a great local industrialist is fond of saying, “the second hardest thing is to get people to move to Cleveland, the hardest thing is to get them to leave afterwards.” Why is the market failing so blatantly???

Apologies for the rant. I just can’t wrap my mind around this.

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lwdlyndale's avatar

"New cities" strikes me as a right/libertarian version of the topic switching arguments you get from some on the left when you talk about upzoning and they are like "no no no, we need social housing!" that is instead of having the messy fight about zoning derail the conversation with a policy discussion about something that everyone knows deep down will never actually happen.

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