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Andrew's avatar

So on Twitter social workers and education are really the center of the argument. And it’s frustrating because a few states really do require a master’s degree and have pay low enough that some people may fall behind the rule here.

I don’t really know how to make the state politics of public service more sensible. I mean I work with social workers as part of the foster system and they’re doing really awful work that does require a lot of knowledge about dealing with people in level ten crises and people meet the claims of low pay with they should just require an associate’s degree like it’s not a genuinely intellectually demanding field.

The requirement for master’s degrees in education seems quite silly especially in states that can’t hire enough teachers. New York and Pennsylvania both are rather difficult to get started in but pay well for careerists.

I don’t know how big of a problem the public service sector is but the program which is supposed to ameliorate this pslf is ran so poorly it was a nightmare to navigate under Trump 1. I eventually got loans forgiven but it took me something like 3 years of going back and forth with paperwork.

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The providers of the service should be on the hook for part of the loan repayment. That would have two salutory effects. a) They would be more selective about who received the loan. b) They would be more juditious in ensuring that their services were efficatious in producing income for the persons receiving the loans. If we did that, the providers would probably have policies like the rule. There would be not need for a one-size fits all way to improve the ROR of student loans. For example putting provicers on the hook would get at the amount of debt problem. In terms of b) above, they would look at the cost and benefit of a program, not just the benefit.

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