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George Carty's avatar

I like Matthew Lewis's point that the contemporary United States isn't so much a case of "end-stage capitalism" as of "end-stage car culture", with the housing crisis being the result of NIMBYism by people who feel that are already too many people in their area -- even though the real problem isn't in fact too many people but too many cars (and the resulting noise, traffic jams and competition over parking spaces that worsen the quality of life).

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It's mostly about status quo bias, and minimally about larger econ issues, or pro/con regulation, or local control.

I agree with much of the YIMBY agenda, but disagree with much of a diagnosis of why we are here, and this statement by Matt is typical of what I think is wrong. While he mentions the singlefamilyness of the whole neighborhood, there are statements like this: "Left-NIMBYs see zoning reform as free-market deregulation, so they are against it. But right-NIMBYs see zoning reform as contravening their property rights, so they are against it." I also read people like J Demsas say there something economically intentional about diminishing supply to increase valued.

I disagree these are major factors. I believe it is minimally about larger econ issues, or pro/con regulation, or local control -- it's almost all about status quo bias, fear of change, risk aversion, and in some cases, a feeling of exclusivity. When change is proposed, people look for potential problems with the new and require justification.

I have been involved in many online discussions and was active in developing a modest zoning revision, getting it passed, and seeing a referendum overturn it. No one ever mentioned home values -- it was the character of our suburban community (esp from the right and older people), and the schools being overwhelmed, and teacher-student ratios. Unsaid was that our wealthy community gives people a feeling of exclusivity -- it's like when the people with airport lounge access see the riff-raff getting access because of their credit cards. And you always have to throw in irrational fear of traffic. And while the right is more associated with opposition to change, there are plenty of left-wing people with nostalgia too, especially the ones who grew up in the community.

In my area of suburban Boston, I have seen opposition to and fears of a new gas main, a new high voltage electric line, narrowing a street, widening a street, adding a bike lane, cannabis stores, the possibility of a class 3 bio lab, a new day care (the traffic!), removing a dam, etc. And it's not just suburbia -- in Boston, consider anything that encroaches on Chinatown, or how a new dorm was stalled near a more Black community for 10 years until Northeastern kept adding things like community space and "$10 million over the next 10 years to the city to be used to advance housing stabilization and wealth creation in the immediately adjacent neighborhoods of the project."

Enought rant for now.

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