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Dilan Esper's avatar

One important thing to remember is the anti-tobacco movement also went too far. Matt has a line in there about anti-vaping laws as a victory for the movement, but in fact those laws are almost certainly murdering significant numbers of smokers.

Vaping is far less dangerous than smoking and allows people to enjoy nicotine, which Matt concedes is enjoyable. (Full disclosure: I don't smoke or vape.) And yet we apply the same rules against secondhand smoke to public vaping, make vapes difficult to obtain, fill them with warning labels, etc. Why? Because just like Prohibitionists favored putting poison in alcohol, the anti-smoking lobby WANTS to murder smokers because they want to deter people from the fun they disapprove of, rather than focusing on actually saving lives by preventing smoking and chewing tobacco.

This is, I think, a danger in all such movements. They attract puritans, and they don't shut down after winning the important victories. And they can end up losing the thread and lurching towards sociopathy when society doesn't do exactly what they want.

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C-man's avatar

Tangentially, I really, really find flight-shaming to be the absolute lowest and laziest form of performing concern about climate change.

And unfortunately, it's really popular among senior academics who built their career in part on flying to conferences, research sites and collaborations, and then turn around and sanctimoniously tell younger scholars that flying is bad and you shouldn't do it!

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