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John from FL's avatar

On the economic merits, Matt is correct.

On the **political** merits we should hope like hell Trump uses tariffs just as he has been doing. I'm not sure they realize it, but the tariff issue is the largest risk to the Trump administration with his persuadable voters. All those small business owners, temperamentally conservative managers, executives -- the people who rebelled against Lina Khan, urban disorder, border dysfunction, DEI run amok -- they will abandon Trumpism if his policies start hitting their wallets.

If the Democrats can embrace a freer trade policy than the Republicans in a post-Trump world, that is a winning issue that can have long-lasting effects. And, as Matt notes, these tariffs aren't being done in a permanent way through legislation; they can be undone as easily as they are being done. They are a good issue for Democrats -- dumb policy, unpopular with persuadable voters, easy to change !

Michael Sullivan's avatar

I feel just sick about the tariffs. I really do think that this is likely to be one of the biggest and most lasting harms Trump does.

I think that Trump also exposes a big failure we've long been sitting on here: that even after generations of elite consensus that free trade is win-win, we've failed to build a popular consensus.

It is clearly the case that people's general natural suspicion of foreigners leads to resentment of foreign trade, that generalized suspicion of "big companies" puts negative sentiment on free trade, that the economic logic of why free trade is good is a little too complex for many people to follow, and that the real disruption that comes from economic evolution all come together and create a pretty strong constituency for protectionism.

And I think politicians and political movements on both sides of the spectrum have found it convenient to tolerate or encourage protectionist sentiment and try to channel it into political gain.

Assuming that the forces of basic sanity wrest control of the country back from Trump, it's not at all clear to me how we keep this from being an ongoing source of political weakness

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