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Rory Hester's avatar

Sort of weird that this post came up. Right now we have our son-in-law staying at our house with my step-daughter. He got out of the Marines a year ago. Since then he has tried multiple jobs and never lasted more than a week. He also tried college. Quit after one semester.

Every thing he tries and quits, he always has an excuse for. It’s to hard. To messy. To boring. To whatever.

What does he do with all of his free time? He sits and plays video games on his laptop or binges Netflix.

My step-daughter however is hard working and conscientious. Quite frankly deserves better.

My son, who is bright, lives in Scotland. He has a job and a place with his girlfriend. But the job is literally working as a dishwasher at a restaurant. Because it’s the UK he can survive. He isn’t bothered because hey…. Video games, weed, and Netflix.

Another son-in-law, in the USAF. He goes to work, spends pretty much every evening playing video games. Despite having three kids.

These are just three examples, but I’m sure it’s repeated endlessly across the country.

Netflix and video games especially have become so good… so enjoyable that it cuts into the social life and fabric of Americans.

Honestly, as technology gets better, I suspect it will only get worse.

Personally, I think it’s a bigger risk for men than for women for whatever reasons.

The education gap will continue to grow between men and women. Educated women will continue to have poorer and fewer options for marriage.

*anyway, I’m trying to get my first son-in-law a job with my company as a winder (works on generators). It’s a travel job, but you work have the year, make very good money, etc…. One of the questions he asked me was about the hotels we stay in. He was obsessed with knowing if the Wi-Fi was good enough to play video games.

Sorry for the rant. The post was triggering.

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Jesse Ewiak's avatar

Somewhat hot take - a lot of people's families, jobs, and friends weren't all that great, and were easily ovetaken by video games and better streaming options.

More importantly, I think this is absolutely true when it comes to dating, on both ends. I'm going to give of course, pretty hyperbolic examples, but I think parts of all of it are why there's a depression in sex on the edges.

If you're a guy, you can go out, on a date with a woman you may or may not like, likely pay a decent amount of money, and she'll either never call you back, or on the other side of things, you might be not that interested in her, but she'll be clingy toward you...or you could play GTA Online for 6 hours, and then watch very high quality porn of all kinds involving women much more attractive than you have any shot at.

Or, if you're a girl, you can go out on a date, or just out in general, get bothered by a lot of creepy dudes if you're not specfically on a date, and if you do go home with one of them, it's highly possible the actual sex won't be all that good, or they'll be clingy in a vartiety of ways (that are much more dangerous)...or you could watch 6 hours of really well edited reality shows, and then use a sex toy that's much better at giving you an orgasm than a majority of men.

Obviously, Bowling Alone and it's descendents have it's reasonable arguments, but honestly, hasn't this been the reaction to any kind of change in culture/leisure time? Look at how people reacted to comic books and television during the 50's, let alone previous times of moral outrage and worries about the undergirdings of society.

What I think is largely happening is a lot of mediocre sex, mediocre friendship groups, and mediocre relationships in general are dying on the vine, or never happening in the first place. I also think a lot of this is older people not understanding a different in communication - from what I know, the zoomers talk a lot to each other, it's just in Discord or whatever instead of in the park or the backyard of somebodies house. Now, you can judge whether that's truly a friend group or not, but I also think some of this is older Millenial's pushing their ennui about college/early 20's period friendships/relationships drifting apart as they tend to do, to some huge society defining thing.

Also, do people actually have fewer friends, or are people less apt to call a guy they see every couple of weeks to have a beer or two a friend? Perhaps those sensitive snowflake young kids just have stricter views, just like they do on a lot of societal views.

I'm being somewhat overblown, but I think this is something where there's something slightly screwy at the edges of society (like there is some evidence that a small percentag of kids who are having the usual lack of luck in high school are getting sucked into the incel vortex), and turning it into something that is effecting a wide swath of things. Like, I live in a large city - in our cities 'place 20-something's go out', things seem no different than when I was in my mid-20's, now that COVID isn't really a thing.

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