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Ryan Beck's avatar

This is a good post, but I'm not sure bridge failures are the best measure of bridge quality. I'm a bridge engineer and some of the talk I've seen in the industry is more about aging bridges and maintenance costs, basically that inadequate funding for preventative maintenance ends up costing more in the long run. If your maintenance budget is too small then bridges that could have been maintained inexpensively turn into bridges that need expensive repairs ten years from now. The poster child used to be the Greenfield Bridge in Pittsburgh that was crumbling so badly they constructed nets and a smaller bridge underneath just to catch debris. That seems like a good chunk of money that could have been put to better use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenfield_Bridge

Just want to add a disclaimer that though I'm a bridge engineer I know very little about the national condition of bridges so I'm not trying to speak from authority there, just mentioning what I've seen in seminars and such.

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Doctor Memory's avatar

I think the NYC-centrism of the American publishing industry feeds into this a lot, because as you note the BQE really is crumbling, and the general road quality in NYC really is terrible.

But NYC’s roadway maintenance problems are largely administrative and occasionally simply criminal. The various city agencies involved don’t coordinate maintenance timelines so replaced roads sit for weeks without lane markers, milled out roads take weeks to get new asphalt poured, recently resurfaced roads get dug into for utility maintenance, and certain favored neighborhoods get their roads resurfaced regularly while the Bronx rots. And of course sometimes scheduled work just mysteriously doesn’t happen. (Bike path maintenance happens halfway to never, of course.) None of this can be solved by increasing he NY DoT’s resurfacing budget, although increasing the federal DoJ’s appetite for municipal corruption cases frankly might help.

Also I’m not so sanguine that the BQE is going to be rebuilt any time soon. The much more likely scenario to me would be a replay of the fate of the original West Side Highway: a section of it is going to collapse (everybody is worried about the cantilever along the Brooklyn promenade but don’t discount the possibility of one of the concrete supports under the southern stretch through Sunset Park giving way and killing a lot of people in the process) and it’ll sit closed and condemned for a decade or more as lawsuits fly back and forth.

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