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Rory Hester's avatar

I am blessed to not only have a decent amount of Hispanic friends from growing up in Los Angeles, the military and in Idaho, but I spend 3-4 months a year working in Latin America side by side with Mexicans, Venezuelans, Peruvians, Colombians, Brazilians, and Argentinians. I've basically spent the last three months working in Salta, Argentina.

I viscerally hate the term Latinx. Mainly because it's primarily used by a certain type of pandering progressive type. The stereotypical liberal, in which there is rarely any useful debate to be held. Even worse is when it's used by politicians or business leaders who associate with this crowd, and clearly have no close associations with the Hispanic community in the United States.

First, for the rest of my rant, I am going to use the term Hispanic, because it covers everyone except Brazilians.

Observations:

Even though I prefer the term Hispanic for the United States, in the rest of Latin American, it's not commonly used. Generally, the people are more likely to refer to themselves by their nationality first. They are Colombians or Argentinians. This national identity is much stronger than any allegiance to any group. If pressed, or when talking about people from multiple countries, Latin Americans is the term used most (which is gender neutral... thus my annoyance at coming up with another term). Latino or Latina is popular though it's more popular the further north you go and fades as you move down south.

The whole gender neutral latinx (latine') is used by the progressive college crowd, though only in that very small subset of population, and is never used by media or in the mainstream.

My favorite story is working with a Mexican engineer (recently immigrated) in the United States one time at a job site, and discussing the term Latinx. His reply "pinche gringos"

On to what I observe among Hispanic-Americans and politics in the United States.

For the longest time, it seemed to me that Hispanic representation in politics seemed to be dominated by the East Coast. Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc... which never really translated to the issues of the mostly Mexican and Central American heritage Americans that I grew up with in Los Angeles and who I worked with in the Military.

This is slowly changing as more Americans with Mexican Heritage enter politics. I fully expect this influence to increase exponentially.

If you ask me, our countries focus on Black White issues almost seems to exclude Hispanic Americans from discussions.

Even in the media and entertainment, I am constantly annoyed at how poor representation is of Hispanic Americans. And even when it does happen, it's rarely reflects reality. It focuses on recent immigrants (there are a whole lot of 2nd and 3rd generation) Americans.

These days TV sitcoms routinely have both white or black characters (unlike Friends), but it's a lot rarer for them to have a Hispanic character, even though at least in my life... it's fairly impossible to live your life without Hispanic friends/co-workers.

My observation is that my Hispanic friends tend to range from very conservative to moderate. With the vast majority sort of in the middle. Liberal Hispanics are rarer than white liberals, and if they do exist, they are going to come from the highly educated college crowd.

The Hispanic vote is never going to be as monolithic as the black vote, but to win these voters, it seems to me that it's bread and butter issues that are going to win the day. The sort of social support programs that benefit working people, allow them to get ahead.

Finally, one of the key mistakes Democrats make when trying to attract the Hispanic vote is assuming that an openish border policy is going to be the main issue. First, Hispanic voters are American citizens, and by definition they were either born here, or followed the process and rules. Secondary, even undocumented migrants can understand supply and demand as far as wages go. They have no real economic reason to want even more undocumented migrants vying for the same jobs that they are performing. However, providing a path to citizenship and allowing family to migrate as well are key issues.

If politicians really want to win the Hispanic vote, then they need to do the same things that are going to win the white working class vote and the same things the black working class want as well. Material over identity.

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Richard Weinberg's avatar

As usual I think you're basically correct, but... Yes, Latinx is more a symptom than "the problem," but in my view it's a symptom of a really serious problem. A faction of progressive Democrats have become enamored of cultural issues I perceive as being not merely politically counterproductive but often factually incorrect and/or morally flawed. Remarkably, despite their modest numbers, the faction has become so powerful within the party and within the "liberal punditocracy" that their unwise actions are leading the Democratic party to catastrophe, with terrible consequences for the country.

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