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James's avatar

Another interesting Maya post. I’m beginning to see a theme in her SB writing where there’s sort of some autobiographical or personal experience elements inspiring each post.

That said, I don’t know if I agree. Back when I was a nationally ranked high school policy debater (did quite well at TOC if I do say so myself), K was sort of frowned upon but definitely growing in popularity. The big focus was on body counts. No matter the topic or the side you were on, you would win by “proving” your opponent would lead to the larger pile of dead bodies. This led to truly horrid arguments constructed on the most tenuous of links that eventually led to global thermonuclear war or biological catastrophes or whatever. Sure, we were arguing the topic but I’m not sure there was anything more valuable going on by doing so. It’s specious either way.

Also, the debate community needs to pick up judges from outside of the undeclared-humanities-focused-sophomore. If you can find an upperclassmen engineering major with free time, none of those Ks will win.

More than anything, high school debate made me into an asshole. All I wanted to do was start arguments and win them. That’s fine when you’re only spending time with other debaters. When I got to college, that made it hard to make friends. Surprisingly, it was a “debate society” (rather than a team) that helped me on both the quality of my thinking and improving my social skills.

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Belisarius's avatar

I'm conservative, so of course I hate that debate is being overrun by far left teenage edgelords.

That being said...do these kids really believe the nonsense they are spouting? Or is it just that they are gaming the system and playing to the judges' biases?

And even if they do believe what they are saying now, will those beliefs survive contact with reality? I'm skeptical.

Maybe it is even good that they are being exposed to these various 'kritiks' and the counterarguments to them, as they can develop a resistance/immunity to them later?

All that being said...great article.

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