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dysphemistic treadmill's avatar

"You didn’t have unanimity among members of congress about legislative sequencing, but everyone agreed that a choice had to be made and when the choice was made, it stuck."

In other words, Nancy Pelosi was the last great leader of the Democratic Party.

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A decent stab at analysis of the situation. But (IMO), still overthinking it. Also, far too kind to Nate Silver.

(Nate Silver, though a great poker player and a historically important pollster/analyst/android-brainlike persona, has developed an obvious grudge and chip on his shoulder against a lot of the world that is badly throwing his judgement and sense of reality out of whack. Being (mistakenly, IMO) fired from your main job by ABC and being called all kinds of names by liberals on Twitter over your pandemic thoughts will emotionally mess you up, but still. No excuse for the somewhat-delusional figure he's becoming now.)

One other thing, though. You hit on it briefly, but didn't connect the dots:

Democrats are sticking with Biden because, like you, they think he's done a great job.

That's really the main thing going on here, not the notion that "the party's weak" (though it is, by historical standards).

Klobuchar, Bullock, Whitmer, Shapiro, and Howdy-Doody (okay, I made up that last one) all genuinely like Biden, and want him to serve a second term.

More than any other reason, that's why they're not considering challenging him.

More broadly, they think if Democrats can't win the election with Biden's record, then we're all fucked and lol, nothing matters.

Beyond that, there's also the fact that parties in general tend to believe that a successful primary challenge to their incumbent president discredits not just that president, but his agenda--and the party's agenda--writ large.

Notably, at the depths of their unpopularity, neither Bush nor Trump nor Clinton nor Obama were ever seriously considered for a primary challenge. Three of those four won re-election, and the fourth nearly did, so *shrug emoji*.

P.S.: Also, in the specific case of Biden, there's a strong possibility that him bowing off the ballot, or being primaried off of it, would boost Trump's false contention that he is a "usurper" and that the 2020 election was "rigged"--which would have uncountable collateral damage far beyond Biden or Trump. But that's perhaps a little too much specific context for a general topic.

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