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Sam Tobin-Hochstadt's avatar

I think a crucial question is being skipped over here. If we had invested more in the war, it would have gone better. But would it have gone well enough to cause the people who opposed the government to give up? And would we have been able to create a government that was seen as mostly legitimate by most of the people, in the way that for example the Iraqi government is.

Iraq had the advantage that no one was a sincere Baathist in 2003, and that the ethnic majority was opposed to the regime. It's much less clear that a similarly good outcome was available in Afghanistan.

(Just to be clear, invading Iraq was bad and not justified by the relative success of the postwar government. It's just a helpful comparison case.)

Robert Rose's avatar

“When a country is being subverted it is not being outfought; it is being out-administered” - Bernard Fall

At the Modern War Institute, we recently had a conference for the five year anniversary of the war to capture its lessons. Matt’s argument lines up will Paul Miller’s in “Choosing Defeat.” There is another argument, which Carter Malkasian makes in “America’s War in Afghanistan” that troop levels and commitments could not have overcome the character of Afghanistan society. They are both great books, but I do not think they explain the casual mechanism of the defeat.

Often what these debates miss is not how we lost, but how did the Taliban win? How did it adapt and create a political apparatus that out-administered the countryside, eliminated corruption, and mobilized the population against the state? It did exactly what the communist in Vietnam did. It embedded itself with the rural population and created a grassroots movement that was tied to them. It was forced to.

On the other hand, the Afghanistan government was overly-centralized and disconnected from the rural population. Just as in Vietnam, provincial and district governors were appointed by the president. There was no meaningful political feedback at the local level. The government never created an administrative system that mobilized the rural population against the Taliban. Because it could rely on foreign aid, it was never forced to.

Troop levels and Pakistan were supporting factors, but they were not the critical influencer on the Taliban victory. For more on the lessons of Afghanistan, I recommend reading my article, “All Power is Local” in Military Review: https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/January-February-2023/Rose/

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