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John from FL's avatar

This is brilliant.

I especially agree with the part about this issue being an underrated aspect of class dealignment in politics.

For the more committed environmentalists, they seem to *need* something both publicly noticeable and slightly inconvenient to experience the positive feeling of "doing something". Witness low-flow shower heads, paper straws, banning plastic bags, banning gas stoves. Each is a little annoying while providing miniscule tangible benefit. It is akin to going to confession and doing penance to cleanse one's soul of sin.

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>> "But it does mean saying a firm “no” to degrowth and embracing real cost-benefit analysis and maybe even (in the right macroeconomic environment) returning to carbon pricing. "

The combination of doomerism and a degrowth mindset underpins much of the democratic rhetoric on climate action, even while dems get most of the big stuff right in the actual policy space. This messaging fail, made worse by an insistence that climate messaging always has to include social justice and identity politics messaging, has seriously eroded public support for Biden's otherwise sensible policies on climate. While this stuff mostly results in bad optics and reduction of public support, it also makes the climate action dems pass much more convoluted than it ought to be for no good reason.

It's similar to democrats echoing talking points from "the groups" on defunding the police and opening the borders to everyone.

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