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Manuel F.'s avatar

Matt, you really gotta start writing takes I disagree with! Feeling a bit deprived of the smug satisfaction of thinking someone else wrong on the internet.

Seriously though, I think if we're in a situation where people feel a bit aggrieved and jealous of those ahead of them on the vaccine line, and feel the pressure of others also clamoring to take it, that's probably a good thing all things considered. Sort of a toilet-paper-in-March effect, though this time for something a bit more important that wiping butts.

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My wife is a frontline health care worker. She and many of her co-workers were fortunate enough to receive the vaccine yesterday. I’m actually going to push back on one of the initial premises of Matt’s post and say that it does not make sense to prioritize young, healthy health care workers over the elderly, at least as a blanket proposition. Partially for the reasons outlined above, but also for a few others.

1. Outside of nursing homes, I’ve seen no evidence that health care facilities are a major source of spread. They wear N95 masks and gloves religiously. Because of these precautions, there has been no identified work-related spread of COVID among the physicians in her department for the last eight months. And they won’t relax any of those protocols because there are too many unknowns around whether the virus can be spread through individuals who have received the vaccine. So working will still be inconvenient and unpleasant in that regard.

2. Some of these individuals receiving the vaccine have had COVID. *Recently*. It was unpleasant, but they all described it as a mild fever that lasted less than a week. And now it’s fairly certain that they have at least 6 months of immunity. We don’t have evidence that asymptomatic spread will be different in vaccinated populations vs post-COVID individuals. So how does it serve anyone to give them a vaccine two months after they recovered from COVID?

I’m glad my wife and her friends were vaccinated. (None reported any reactions from the vaccine, by the way!) But those vaccines did not save any lives, and I doubt they even prevented any infections. I would sign on to prioritizing health care workers who work on COVID floors and haven’t been infected yet, or maybe even high-risk health care workers writ large. But I personally believe this vaccine is wasted on recently-infected healthy thirty-year-olds, at least until there’s sufficient availability. Give it to the elderly, who are dying by the thousands every day.

I really don’t think this was about shoring up our health care infrastructure. This was about rewarding health care workers. I hope they really liked their gift, because someone paid for it with their life.

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