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Something I'm curious what you think about, that seems like it would have been included here is the strategy of borrowing against your assets to keep your tax bill down and not having to pay for it as a realized capital gain. I'm not a tax wonk but every time I hear about this approach It feels like a big unfairness in the tax code that punishes high income w2 folks and allows the top earners to really avoid full taxation of their assets.

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Lol, if the point was that something has changed dramatically in the 21st century, this is grossly misleading.

1. Plenty of sources for this (eg Jorda-Schularick-Taylor macro history series). Post-war:

Long-run return on equities: Risk-free rate + ~7%

Long-run return on housing: ~5% (you need to include rental value here, not just price appreciation)

Long-run GDP growth: ~3%

The weird thing is that these kind of line up from 1995-2010. Obviously, if you plot series like these over a long horizon, you’ll see a massive divergence. (This also illustrates why it’s a terrible idea to draw conclusions about long-run returns/growth rates from short samples like this.)

Contra the post, a risk premium on equities is nothing new!

2. Are you at all familiar with the literature on time series asset pricing? I’d want to have some familiarity with the basic facts before positing a structural shift in the returns to capital in the 21st century.

You’d also find that the puzzles about returns on capital are very distinct from equity return puzzles. (Equity is a risky, levered return on capital. Of course the return on equity is higher than the return on capital, which is what Piketty studies!)

3. If stock returns were much higher than GDP over the past 25 years, but earnings grow at roughly the rate of GDP, what will happen to stock returns going forward?

Put differently, you have a provocative chart showing past returns. Is your expectation that the stock market will continue to return about 20%/year? If so are you levered to the hilt?

4. Risk-free bonds are a massive asset class. What has happened to the returns on these relative to GDP growth during the period you study?

5. If you’re trying to understand how individuals build wealth, clearly the housing return you’re interested in is

(House price appreciation - mortgage rate) x Leverage ratio,

not just house price appreciation.

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