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Aug 7Edited

As a squishy humanities-inflected social science guy who never shuts the hell up on this topic here, I agree 10,000%. But four caveats:

- the risks of being a first mover on tougher standards, either as an individual educator or institution, are immense while the possibility of payoff is remote;

- as long as there is an insistance that undergraduate education must be evaluated solely in terms of monetizable societal benefit, the above risk / payoff ratio becomes even more lopsided;

- everyone has to accept the possibility that it is their child who will decisively wash out of any such higher-standard program, dyslexia or other verbal/literacy difficulties nothwithstanding;

- without succumbing to The Discourse on AI in education in either direction, I'm just going to say "embrace AI as a productivity-enhancing technology" and "significantly increase the rigor of undergraduate humanities education" are, at best, two goals that are hard to reconcile with each other.

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Professor in a humanities discipline at a research university here. I love the idea in principle, but here is the practical problem.

My Dean has made it clear that what matters to him when making decisions (especially decisions about whether to replace professors when they leave or retire, what kinds of financial support for department activities etc.) is “metrics”. And he has said openly that the single metric that matters most in this context is class sizes - how many students the department teaches.

So if we make our courses so hard that our enrollments collapse by half, we will lose massively. So our strong incentive is to keep enrollments high, which is best done by not making it unfeasibly hard to get a good grade.

This does mean that our major looks less prestigious, for the reason Matt explained, so we attract fewer majors and probably lower quality students doing those majors. But the Dean doesn’t care about that, provided the overall undergraduate numbers hold up via our elective courses.

The way I handle this personally is by still setting whole books, lots and lots of reading, and making it clear that I want people to do it - while at the same time setting papers, exams etc. that students can do well on even if they haven’t done all the reading.

And yes, I’m aware of a certain inconsistency in this, but it’s the best I can think of, given the pressures on me.

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