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ryan hanemann's avatar

“ someone always raises the concern that this benefit to foreign-born wage earners generates downward pressure on native-born wage earners.

But H-1 workers’ earnings are well above the national average, so they can’t be pulling down average wages.”

What? Matt brought up a concern and then answered a different concern. If an H1B comes in at $150k to a job that would ordinarily pay $200k, and into a country in which the average wage is $100k, then he is creating downward pressure on wages but increasing the average wage IF the position would have gone unfilled without an H1B. Otherwise he is creating downward pressure on BOTH native-born and average wages.

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"Housing scarcity throws this off. Your $1,000 may just bid up my rent and leave me worse off."

Tangentially-related, this is basically the second reason I sometimes feel so personally peeved about student loan forgiveness (the first being that it is poorly targeted). I paid off my loans at the expense of saving up for a down payment. When I did ultimately buy a house (which I waited to do until my 40s), I had a very tight budget and could only afford a fixer-upper -- which I now actually can't afford to fix up. Like, we literally have a shower we haven't been able to use for over a year because the toilet leaked on the floor, the floor had to be removed to fix it, and I can't afford the additional renovations needed to put everything back into working order. (And no, Dad, I'm not competent to do it myself, nor do I have the time to teach myself plumbing, tiling, electrical, and flooring as the parent of two young kids with a full-time job.)

Considering that I'm pretty much smackdab in the middle of the population cohort targeted for loan forgiveness (older Millennial), it was hard for me to escape the feeling that my peers getting significant loan forgiveness wouldn't actually put me at a disadvantage when it came to competition in the housing/renovation market. So when people asked, "Why does it bother you if others get help?", my answer was, "Because it hurts ME!"

I probably wouldn't mind loan forgiveness at all if I personally wasn't struggling so much with housing costs as a result of paying off my own loans. Alternatively, if I could get retroactively reimbursed for loans that would have been qualified for forgiveness today, that would also make me feel better.

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