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Brian T's avatar

My experience is that extreme-normie arguments for YIMBY work fine -- for instance "it helps people live near their children and grandchildren" or "it means that as you grow older, losing your drivers license doesn't mean losing your freedom."

On the internet, we get used to arguing with people that apply an ideological framing to everything, but that's because people on the internet (myself included) are weird.

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On YIMBY framing, one of my regular observations is pointing out that if people said that they didn't want foreigners from another country moving to their town, they'd be pretty clearly called out as racist and xenophobic. But when people say the same about fellow Americans moving in, hardly anyone bats an eye. (For example, out here in the West, "Don't Californicate [state I live in]" has long been a thing.)

Well, recently a rather left wing friend of mine threw an inverted curveball at me saying she just wanted anyone *but* Americans to move into town. I forget how I tried to shift my framing but boy that one was a doozy.

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