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I think framing climate change as an unfortunate side effect of a very good thing (immense and unparalleled human prosperity and flourishing in more parts of the world than ever before) is far and away the best way to frame the issue.

It allows us to acknowledge the huge benefits we've reaped by burning fossil fuels for the last couple centuries, it thoroughly undercuts and highlights the cruel absurdity of the de-growth camp (yeah, let's solve climate change by keeping most of Asia and Africa poor), and it allows us to look at the future in a positive light (ie, all the new technology we get to develop to move beyond carbon). It makes me excited instead of depressed.

Also, as someone who has always enjoyed history, whenever anyone says "this is the worst time to be alive" or "things are always getting worse" I want to say "I don't know, 536AD seemed pretty bad, and also the black death? Even 1900-1950 was pretty terrible! Two world wars and a massive economic downturn?? I'll stay in 2021 thanks"

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I recall a former friend telling me a year ago that he “didn’t want to have to shoot at me if there was a civil war”. Like he would be trudging through some swampy hedgerow with his AR-15 and rucksack of bone broth and toilet paper as part of Rogans 1st Texas Rifles or something. I told him if anything we might experience something like “the troubles” or the 1970’s terrorism here in the US with political headquarters being bombed and a bunch of innocent bystanders being killed. It’s the longing to be a romantic hero in a broken world via murder of your fellow countrymen that just breaks my brain. Now most people do not feel this why but it scared the hell out of me that a relatively intelligent white collar professional told me this.

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