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Michael Sullivan's avatar

I'll note that points 4 (murder rate) and 6 (budget deficit) are clearly comparing numbers heavily spiked by the pandemic to current non-pandemic rates, and that intelligent relatives will notice you're doing that and call you out on it.

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Peter Gerdes's avatar

While I appreciate the attention here to who can be persuaded, I think this list doesn't take enough account of how people can be persuaded over an interaction like the Thanksgiving weekend.

The point about Biden administration issuing record numbers of deportation orders is great. It's simple, challenges the narrative that might be driving a vote and is something they can easily remember and check when they go back home.

Unfortunately, many of the economic points are exactly the opposite. Unless your relatives are taking notes all they'll go home with is: my relative said 'nah, Biden is doing great on the economy' and you might as well just say that. The people who are going to check right wing media will just get whatever stats make Biden look bad and those who are going to check left or accurate nuetral sources will get that info but either way it doesn't really help persuade them to have a bunch of economic stats to cite. Indeed, it probably hurts because it will make them feel dominated and resentful.

More broadly, I suspect that the most effective way of being persuasive in our current climate is merely to convey the sense that people who support, or better yet are in, the Biden admin care about people with values and concerns like the ones they have. And often the best way to do that is mostly by listening and showing that you are a person who sympathizes with their concerns (even if you don't agree with the policies they support) even though you are a strong Biden supporter. Tho, ofc, every situation is different.

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